I'm curious as to why your friend hopefully thought the tune a polka. Many of us dance musicians get around this problem by dropping the designation from the name of the tune as I did above with "Fishers" hornpipe.
Well, yes, it is possible to play a tune in different ways. The furthest I've got by observation and inference is that hornpipes should make me want to do a heavy footed one-hop two-hop step and polkas should make me want to do a lighter hop.
The "tiddle-iddle om pom pom" hornpipe ending is apparently less diagnostic than I had thought. I am reassured by the Mudcat thread that shows I'm not the only one who has struggled with this question. These rhythms are no longer part of the wider culture around me, but merely something within the community of folk enthusiasts, so I haven't grown up knowing the difference.
Indeed, some would say that I haven't grown up. For those who think it should be obvious, put yourself in the position of defining the differences between rockabilly and rock 'n' roll. The song Blue Suede shoes can be rock and roll Elvis or rockabilly Carl but the two styles, although similar, are different things.
This thread seems to be revolving around the classification of a tune as a hornpipe or a polka. There was a thread on melodeon.
It dealt largely. Stop Press: MF has just posted, but I'll post this anyway, before looking at his latest contribution Hoping to not having overlooked something already mentioned I would like to add that albeit my own playing a hornpipe has mostly been of the dotted variant as well so far, there seem to be traditions of playing them rather or even completely straight.
OTOH, as to polkas there are tunes which I have immediately identified as a polka right from the dots, or a first run through, my leading case being " Johnny I do miss you " Irish. I reckon particularly the B-sections have something to them which lets me picturing myself making polka steps polka being one of the very few dances I tried in my younger days. This is seen frequently with hornpipes in say Northumbrian pipers' tune books. Approximations are frequently used when writing music and the interpretation of the music when played is down to the musician - who should have the knowledge of eg.
It sounds to me like you have a good understanding of what a hornpipe should sound like. You just need more exposure, perhaps to the dancier renditions, to firm up your resolve. It's a good topic for friendly conversation but one that might not be easily nailed down. To my mind the difference between a polka and a hornpipe is in the phrasing. A hornpipe goes tum-te-tum-te with strong 1 and 3 but 3 is slightly less than 1, all played as a 4 note phrase.
Triplets tend to put a bit of a feel in but triplet 1 is still stronger than 3. A polka has a strong feel to it with the first note of each tied pair having equal weight in the bar. When written the hornpipe has blocks of 4 tied notes usually emphasising the 4 note phrasing as against the polka's tied pairs. A reel has a more running feel to it going with 5 being slightly subservient to 1. I don't disagree with what is said in the trail above.
Playing things in the right time isn't too much of a problem, but making up midis to pass on to non-dot-readers is! I think I'm just going to have to go round there with my mandolin. Or maybe dig out my cassette recorder. Niock, I'm not sure where the sex appeal comes into it. Do you think it would show in the music? It's about time my luck changed! From: greg stephens Date: 22 Jun 08 - PM An important point to make to those who are trained to read dots, is that the use of dotted notations, or reference to "dotted rhythm" is confusing when applied to hornpipes, as it is not to be taken literally.
Only very very rarely, as an emphasis or decoration, will a traditional player play two quavers in the "dotted quaver semi-quaver" strict rhyhm of Traditional players always in my experience play somewhere between and The standardised modern Irish style veers towards the , whereas the old "Sailor's Hornpipe" rhythm in England tends more to the I was musically brought up in the northwest of England, where a more dotted approach, similar to the Irish was used for slower hornpipes.
I believe this was and is generally true in the north-east as well, but less so in the south and east. There, even or rhythms ceratinly seem to be the modern fashion; and maybe historically as well? But the distinctive feature of the hornpipe has always been the diddle diddle diddle diddle om pom pom ending. Which has a close historical connection, as has often been observed, with one of the two standard Latin claves beats, the Bo Diddley or Not Fade Away beat, and many kinds of African music.
Learn to dance. Its fun and the rhythm becomes more obvious. The sheet music is of course only an approximation to what you actually play. A straight would be played wo-ON too-OO three-EE fo-O, not by dividing the notes into pairs — just adding a bit of stress in the middle.
Or, are there additional regional styles of polka which developed for dancing in other parts of Ireland? Just out of interest, C. It was first danced, seemingly, by a Bohemian peasant girl in and named at Prague in There is no single "right" way to play a reel or a polka. You will then have an idea if the range of acceptable approaches, and will be able to select and develop your own preferred style. There is no one right way, but if you are playing for dancing there are wrong ways, and several right ways, if the dancer cannot dance to the music then it is wrong for that purpose.
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